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MR. HAMAR GREENWOOD, M.P. (instructed by Messrs. William A. Crump and Son), watched proceedings for the Canadian Pacific Railway Company. MR. ROCHE (instructed by Messrs. Charles G. Bradshaw and Waterson) appeared on behalf of the Marine Engineers’ Association. (Admitted on application.) MR. A. CLEMENT EDWARDS. M.P., (instructed by Messrs. Helder, Roberts and Co.), appeared as Counsel on behalf of the Dock, Wharf, Riverside, and General Workers Union of Great Britain and Ireland. (Admitted on application.) MR. W. D. HARBINSON (instructed by Mr. Farrell) appeared on behalf of the third-class passengers. (Admitted on application.) MR. ROBERTSON DUNLOP watched the proceedings on behalf of the owners and officers of the s.s. “Californian.” (Leyland Line). (Admitted on Application.) MR. H. E. DUKE, K. C., M. P., and MR. VAUGHAN WILIAMS (instructed by Messrs. A. F. and R. W. Tweedie) appeared as Counsel on behalf of Sir Cosmo and Lady Duff-Gordon. (Admitted on Application.) Sir COSMO DUFF-GORDON, Continued. Further examined by the ATTORNEY-GENERAL. 12592. (The Attorney-General.) There are two questions I want to put to Sir Cosmo. (To the Witness.) I notice from what you said in your evidence (I am referring to question 12586, my Lord), that there was this conversation between you and the men, or one of the men, that you would give them a present of £5 each, and that was made, as I follow from what you have told us, quite early in the history of this boat. I want to ask you just a little about the time; I want to follow quite clearly when it was. Was it before or after the boat had gone back to try to pick up people? - I did not know about the boat going back. The Commissioner: What is the going back you are referring to? 12593. (The Attorney-General.) Your Lordship remembers Symons’ evidence, I will refer you to it. I will put a question to him which I think will bring it to your Lordship’s mind. (To the Witness.) According to you then the boat never went back? - No, I do not know where we were rowing about to. 12594. When I say went back - it never went to try to pick up some of the people who might be drowning from the “Titanic”? - No, I did not know of it. The Commissioner: Where is Symons’ evidence? The Attorney-General: I will tell your Lordship the effect of his evidence. What he said was they did not go back when they heard the cries, but they rowed away, but that some time after they did go back. And then your Lordship put a question to him “But then the cries had ceased,” and he said “Yes.” The Commissioner: I remember that. That did not seem to me to be a going back that was of the least importance. 12595. (The Attorney-General.) No, but that is what he did. Your Lordship will remember I cross-examined him upon his statements in America where he was asked whether he did go back when he heard the cries and when he said yes. I pointed out then that that was very different from the evidence he had given here and he admitted that it was. It is question 11561, page 258, where I put to him the question, “Did you ever go back to try to pick up any of these people.” He said, “Yes, after we rowed a little way, as we were going for this self-same light of my first story, we stopped; we laid on our oars. Then I gave the order to pull back, and told the men in the boat we would pull back to the other boats.” Did you hear that? - To pull back to the other