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The Commissioner: “You left nobody behind? - (A.) No, Sir;” and therefore he affirms that there were none but women and children, and he denies that any were men. The Attorney-General: If your Lordship looks at Question 4369, that puts it specifically. The Commissioner: “(Q.) You think that the 60 women you took were all third-class passengers? - (A.) Yes, my Lord.” The Solicitor-General: Of course, the deck he is speaking of is, undoubtedly, a second-class deck.” The Attorney-General: Will you read on? The Commissioner: “(The Solicitor-General.) That was your impression, was it? - Yes. (Q.) These women that you think came from the third-class, were some of them foreigners? - (A.) They were Irish girls. (Q.) It is a nice question, whether they are foreigners or not. Then your boat, I suppose, was as full as it would hold, was it? - (A.) Yes. (Q.) Who took charge of it? - (A.) One of the firemen. (Q.) What is his name? - (A.) Diamond [Dymond]. (Q.) Then there was you, and were there only three others of the crew? - (A.) Four. (Q.) Four others? - (A.) Yes. (Q.) Diamond and yourself, and four others. (A.) Three more.” Then it goes on to another point. The Attorney-General: Yes, it is very definite. The Commissioner: Mr. Attorney, are you in a position to call evidence from the “Carpathia”? The Attorney-General: I expect we shall be. I am not at present, but we shall be. The Commissioner: Because one would hope that the “Carpathia” could give us some information as to what the people were who got out of this boat. 6559. (The Attorney-General.) Yes, we may be able to, but I am not very sanguine about that; but we will try. I am much obliged to your Lordship for the suggestion. We will see whether it can be done. (To the Witness.) Can you give me a little more information about those persons? The Commissioner: I wish you would press him a little on the point. 6560. (The Attorney-General.) I am going to, my Lord. (To the Witness.) If you leave out the four women and the three children of whom you have spoken - I am not going to ask you anything more for the moment about those you picked up on the boat deck - are you quite sure that all the rest of the passengers who got in were men? - Yes. 6561. Quite certain of that? - Yes. 6562. You were helping to pass them into the boat? - Yes. 6563. So that if your memory is correct, you could not be mistaken about it? - No. 6564. (The Commissioner.) Do you know Cavell? - No. 6565. Have not you seen him here? - I could not say. 6566. (The Attorney-General.) We saw him, he was a very short man, boyish looking. Do you remember? - No. 6567. You do not know him at all? - No. 6568. Could you tell at all whether these passengers, the men who got in were first, second, or third-class passengers? - They were third-class. 6569. Third-class? - Third and second. 6570. Why do you say that? What makes you think they were third and second? - I was in conversation with them on the boat. 6571. And they told you? - Yes, in fact a second-class passenger pulled an oar with me during the night; he told me he was a second-class passenger. 6572. Did you talk to many of the passengers in the boat? - No, only just those immediately around me. 6573. Those who were just around you when you were in her? - Yes. I was in the bows of the boat. 6574. Is this a matter about which you are quite clear in your mind, and about which you cannot be making any mistake as to the number of women that were in that boat? - Quite right.