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messages having been despatched. The Solicitor-General: That is right, my Lord. I will have it looked at. The Commissioner: There is no record of two messages having been sent. 16745. (The Solicitor-General.) No, my Lord, I am told not. (To the Witness.) Have you before you now the “Californian’s” record of the message about ice? - Yes. 16746. Just look at it, because I only want to get it clear. That message that you have before you now, what time, New York time, is it sent off? - Five-thirty-five. 16747. That corresponds exactly. And is that a message about “latitude, 42 deg. 3 min. N., longitude, 49 deg. 9 min. W. Three large bergs five miles southward of us. Regards. - Lord”? - Yes. 16748. That actual message is being sent to the “Antillian,” I think? - Yes. 16749. So far as regards the language of that message, the latitude and longitude and the three bergs, does it resemble the one which you heard? - Yes. 16750. Now just think? - With the exception that I cannot recollect the “regards” or the signature or any name or address. 16751. You probably would not remember the address or the signature? - No. 16752. But as regards latitude and longitude and three bergs, that is the same sort of thing? - Yes. 16753. Now that is sent off between five and six, New York time. Do not you think that the message you heard must have been heard by you between five and six, New York time? - No. To the best of my recollection it was between five and six, ship’s time. 16754. If there was a message sent from the “Californian” to the “Titanic” between five and six, ship’s time, that would be about three o’clock, New York time? - Yes. 16755. Now will you look in the procès-verbal of the “Californian,” and see whether there is any reference to any message sent between three and four, New York time, to the “Titanic”? - No, because the first signals he has down with the “Titanic” are at 5.20, when he exchanges Trs. 16756. That is the one I called your attention to. Does not exchanging Tr.’s mean that he has then got into communication with the “Titanic” for the first time? - Yes. That is what it means. It starts the communication? The Commissioner: Does it all come to this, that his own memory is quite defective about it? 16757. (The Solicitor-General.) Assuming those records are right, you must be making a mistake about the time, must you not? - I do not think I am making any mistake about the time. 16758. But assuming those records are right? - Assuming those records are right, yes. 16759. Assuming they are right, you are making a mistake? - Yes. Sir Robert Finlay: It is a matter of argument. Then, my Lord, I desire to recall Mr. Lightoller and Mr. Boxhall. 16760. (The Commissioner.) I want to ask this witness another question. (To the Witness.) The only ice message that you heard anything at all about was the ice message from the “Californian”? - That was the only one. 16761. Now, be very careful. Is it the only one that you heard anything at all about while you were on the “Titanic”? - The only one. 16762. Had you any conversation with Phillips about ice messages? - I cannot recall any. 16763. Can you recall any conversation with Phillips in which he mentioned an ice message having been received by him? - No. 16764. Then, so far as you know from your own knowledge, or from conversation which you had with anybody on board the ship, there was no ice message received, except the “Californian’s”? - As far as I am concerned, that was the only one. 16765. The only one you either know of or heard of? - Yes.